Just noticed the dev team have officially opened the CPDN BOINC project open and running.

Well done! Impressive start, now lets watch the numbers flock to BOINC, and see how things go.

Exciting times!

Zain

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Since S@H is supposed to be releasing the 4.xx Core Client, that should ease some of the trepidation some users may feel towards running the project. Hopefully lots will jump on board! :) (well, not enough to blow out the servers)

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&gt; Since S@H is supposed to be releasing the 4.xx Core Client, that should ease
&gt; some of the trepidation some users may feel towards running the project.
&gt; Hopefully lots will jump on board! :) (well, not enough to blow out the
&gt; servers)
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Assuming that seti does launch 4.xx and it is compatible with CPDN the fact that participants will not be able to use predictor as their "backup" project for a while , could be a real bonus for CPDN as it will temporaily be the only compatible project to run to keep machines crunching something whilst seti is down/out of work etc.

Shady

That is an EXCELLENT point. I am sure MANY seti members would list CPDN as a project (as they have done with Predictor) with a relatively small resource share. But even a small resource share has to download all the files and work unit.

Reportedly SETI will go to 4.0x today... only time will tell with that one. By the end of the weekend I will have up some graphs to watch the rise of numbers for CPDN with Users, hosts, teams and totals all in nice line graph form.

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I dont't think CPDN is a "backup" project. I was crunching for SETI for almost an year. Recently I decided to move on to the BOINC and I signed almost simultaneously to both SETI and CPDN despite the clients wasn't compatible. At the moment I'm using both clients 3.20 and 4.03 for both projects. There is no doubt that the users will increase once 4.xx for SETI is released.
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Hi

I am running SETI,Predictor and now CPDN. I hope that CPDN does not have all the problems that SETI is still having. I cannot start crunching units I believe till all the projects get onto a 4. ?? platform.


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&gt; Hi
&gt;
&gt; I am running SETI,Predictor and now CPDN. I hope that CPDN does not have all
&gt; the problems that SETI is still having. I cannot start crunching units I
&gt; believe till all the projects get onto a 4. ?? platform.
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Yoy can do the following:
1. Install for instance BOINC 3.20 (SETI) but don't attach to any project
2. Copy the folder with BOINC files to another location of your choice (for instance c:boinc.320)
3. Uninstall 3.20
4. Install BOINC 4.05 (CPDN) but don't attach to any project
5. Copy the folder with BOINC to another location (for instance c:boinc.405)
6. Uninstall BOINC once again
7. Create shortcuts for both clients
8. You may now attach projects BUT you cannot run both clients simultaneously. This will be fixed, I hope, when SETI releases v.4.xx of BOINC - you'll be able to attach both projects from single client.
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&gt; I dont't think CPDN is a "backup" project. I was crunching for SETI for almost
&gt; an year. Recently I decided to move on to the BOINC and I signed almost
&gt; simultaneously to both SETI and CPDN despite the clients wasn't compatible. At
&gt; the moment I'm using both clients 3.20 and 4.03 for both projects. There is no
&gt; doubt that the users will increase once 4.xx for SETI is released.

I in NO WAY meant to imply CPDN is a "backup" project. All the BOINC projects are very (I think) very valuable and different in their interests to individuals.

Individuals will have their own preferences as to what resource sharing. I know many SETI hardcore fanatics that will run SETI:Pred:CPDN 98:1:1, but I also know many CPDN fanatics that will run SETI:Pred:CPDN 1:1:98.

Multiple projects on one platform is a distributed dream, not only for the developers, but of individuals. Finally we can pick and chose as individuals, without the hassle of one program hogging the CPU time.

Whatever indviduals choose, everyone wins in my book.

Exciting times.

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Being one of those that signed up for S@H when it was only a couple weeks old, I still won't be interesting in going back until they abandon the classic version. They are trying to run the BOINC side on limited resources while the main equipment still runs the classic. It's resulted in them being swamped and actual production from the masses was greatly impacted (BOINC side, that is).

I'll be happy to keep crunching here rather than go back to S@H until they get it together. Not blaming the S@H people; they just underestimated what they were getting into. But they'll get there.


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@ md3

One thing you forgot to mention is that at Seti@Home Classic they are recrunching the same WU's over and over again. On today's post over at the Seti/Boinc boards, Rom Walton announced that they have 100,000 WU's ready to release. Let me do the math for you, let's see 100,000 WU's divided by 40,000 registered users equals 2.5 WU's per account, not hosts. If we take into account the hosts I would guess that would come out to 1 WU per host. Taking into account that the same WU is sent to 3 different hosts multiply the one WU by the value of three. maybe I read it wrong, but even if that 100,000 figutre is returned WU's, the numbers are still bad. Very depressing to say the least.

OK, not every registered user is stiil downloading/uploading work, but I think you get the over all picture.


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&gt; OK, not every registered user is stiil downloading/uploading work, but I think you get the over all picture.
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Nice picture, Dogbytes. 100,000 WUs is not enough considering SETI servers was down (most of the time) since last month and they plan to upgrade to BOINC v4 soon.

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&gt; One thing you forgot to mention is that at Seti@Home Classic they are
&gt; recrunching the same WU's over and over again.
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Dogbytes brought up a good point and the reason I won't run S@H classic. But don't get the idea that I'm bashing the project (or that I'm implying that anyone else is), I crunched their numbers for over 5 years and was in the top 1/2 percent on rankings. But I was a little disenchanted when I found out they just kept recycling WU just to keep people busy.

But then again, I used to work in weather stations (scorch marks from the radar sets to proove it), so the weather thing is a little closer to my heart.


Mark

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PS: I would have tried to follow the math, but it's Friday and it's been one of those weeks.

&gt; I was a little disenchanted when I found out
&gt; they just kept recycling WU just to keep people busy.

At the <a href="http://www.climateprediction.net/project/openday.php">CPDN Open Day</a> David Anderson made pretty clear that a major motivation behind BOINC was to give SETI participants something else useful to do. OK, he put it slightly more diplomatically, but it seemed clear that he felt that the SETI project had an embarrassment of DC resources currently.