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Message 25236 - Posted: 23 Nov 2006, 1:35:38 UTC

I\'ve noticed that for the past few days, my WUs are not sending trickles up. I can\'t figure why, unless this means the WUs are broken and not worth processing anylonger, which I hope isn\'t the case.
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Message 25237 - Posted: 23 Nov 2006, 2:22:16 UTC

Your firewall settings may have been changed by the last lot of Windows updates.

If a wu \'gets broken\', it will send a message to the server to say so. In which case there will be a message to this effect in the Messages tab.
(And in stdoutdae.txt, which is a continuous archive, and is in the BOINC folder.)
You can also tell if it\'s crashed by the Status of the model in the Tasks tab.

If it\'s a firewall problem, there will be an accumlation of files in the folder with the model\'s name. These will start with: trickle_up_, followed by the model name, followed by a string of numbers, which is a time stamp.

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Message 25239 - Posted: 23 Nov 2006, 3:22:55 UTC - in response to Message 25237.  
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Your firewall settings may have been changed by the last lot of Windows updates.

If a wu \'gets broken\', it will send a message to the server to say so. In which case there will be a message to this effect in the Messages tab.
(And in stdoutdae.txt, which is a continuous archive, and is in the BOINC folder.)
You can also tell if it\'s crashed by the Status of the model in the Tasks tab.

If it\'s a firewall problem, there will be an accumlation of files in the folder with the model\'s name. These will start with: trickle_up_, followed by the model name, followed by a string of numbers, which is a time stamp.



I don\'t use the Windows Firewall, and none of my other projects running have issues communicating with their respective sites. There are no \"trickle*\" files in my BOINC folders, and nothing in the log file. The model is still running, but based on its current TS vs. the last reported TS, I should have sent several trickles by now.

EDIT: Ok, on one of my WUs, http://climateapps2.oucs.ox.ac.uk/cpdnboinc/result.php?resultid=5809391 , I see that it registers multiple trickles at 11/22 03:11, and then one at 11/22 16:37. Looking through my logs, I can find the trickle message corresponding with 16:37, but not the ones for 03:11. Could it have queued up the multiple trickles for 03:11, and sent it at the same time as the 16:37, and only logged one message?
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Message 25240 - Posted: 23 Nov 2006, 5:03:04 UTC

Could it have queued up the multiple trickles for 03:11, and sent it at the same time as the 16:37, and only logged one message?

Yes, that\'s how it works.
If you wait until the trickles get listed on the trickle server, you\'ll be able to see all of the ones that got sent in a bunch. (This program runs twice a day, I think.)
The times for each will generally be the same, with perhaps a difference in the seconds for some. And the \"timesteps\" will be out of order. I\'ve noticed when I\'ve \"batched\" a large number, that they are often in reverse order.

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Message 25241 - Posted: 23 Nov 2006, 16:11:45 UTC - in response to Message 25240.  

Could it have queued up the multiple trickles for 03:11, and sent it at the same time as the 16:37, and only logged one message?

Yes, that\'s how it works.
If you wait until the trickles get listed on the trickle server, you\'ll be able to see all of the ones that got sent in a bunch. (This program runs twice a day, I think.)
The times for each will generally be the same, with perhaps a difference in the seconds for some. And the \"timesteps\" will be out of order. I\'ve noticed when I\'ve \"batched\" a large number, that they are often in reverse order.



Ok, thanks for the clarification. :)
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Message 25298 - Posted: 26 Nov 2006, 6:33:23 UTC - in response to Message 25236.  

An alternative explanation might be that there has been a reincarnation of the periodic \'no trickles reflected\' in the stats program -- seems like that might be the case at the moment -- I\'ve seen it on my numbers as well over the past three days. I\'ve also seen the reported user counts \'stall\' via the BOINC stats programs over the past three days.


I\'ve noticed that for the past few days, my WUs are not sending trickles up. I can\'t figure why, unless this means the WUs are broken and not worth processing anylonger, which I hope isn\'t the case.


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Message 25299 - Posted: 26 Nov 2006, 7:01:19 UTC

Yes, there\'s been another problem with the trickle server for the last couple of days.
If it\'s not one thing, it\'s another.

So now we all have to wait until Monday morning Oxford time for the server stats, and Tuesday sometime for the external stats sites.

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Message 25302 - Posted: 26 Nov 2006, 17:01:40 UTC - in response to Message 25299.  

OK -- thanks for the explanation/confirmation.




Yes, there\'s been another problem with the trickle server for the last couple of days.
If it\'s not one thing, it\'s another.

So now we all have to wait until Monday morning Oxford time for the server stats, and Tuesday sometime for the external stats sites.



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Message 25316 - Posted: 27 Nov 2006, 20:05:45 UTC - in response to Message 25299.  

Yes, there\'s been another problem with the trickle server for the last couple of days.
If it\'s not one thing, it\'s another.

So now we all have to wait until Monday morning Oxford time for the server stats, and Tuesday sometime for the external stats sites.



That would explain why my stats have seemed static for the past few days, when I have 2 machines sending up trickles (and both passed the 1960 mark this weekend!)
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Message 25317 - Posted: 27 Nov 2006, 20:11:18 UTC

My trickles have shown up.

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Message 25318 - Posted: 27 Nov 2006, 20:51:55 UTC

Mine haven\'t, do I have to worry?
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Message 25319 - Posted: 27 Nov 2006, 21:02:11 UTC


I can see 3 trickles against your current result, it\'ll take a while before they turn into credit though.
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Message 25321 - Posted: 28 Nov 2006, 0:01:53 UTC

Okay then :-) maybe I looked in the wrong place or a bit too early. Thanks a lot.
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Message 25322 - Posted: 28 Nov 2006, 4:27:03 UTC

Good News
Just got credit for the trickles that were sent after the Nov 24th.
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