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Send message Joined: 31 Jul 06 Posts: 5 Credit: 523,227 RAC: 0 |
I completed two jobs that were successfully sent in. However, the reports during the, \"Ready to Report\" phase were never sent. I still have them on my machine. If I can\'t get them sent; will I loose my credit on the work units sent? John |
Send message Joined: 9 Jan 07 Posts: 467 Credit: 14,549,176 RAC: 317 |
The reporting of the completion of a model happens a few hours after the final upload of data. Unless network activity is suspended on your PC (or you\'re not regularly connected to the Internet), then this normally happens automatically. If it is a long time (i.e. days) since the models completed, then pressing the \'Update\' button on the \'Projects\' tab of BOINC Manager will provoke some action. It would also help if you could identify which models have completed, since none of the models accessible from your account seem to be anywhere near completion. Are there any unusual or red-coloured messages in the \'Messages\' tab of BOINC manager? If so, paste a few of them here ... Iain |
Send message Joined: 31 Jul 06 Posts: 5 Credit: 523,227 RAC: 0 |
1. The network activity was NOT suspended on my PC and I am ALWAYS connected to the Internet, 2. For weeks since the models were completed, I made daily repeated attempts to send these reports by pressing the, “Update†button on the ‘Projects’ tab. The only ‘action’ I have been able to provoke is a reply deferring me another 24 hours. 3. Models in question are: hadcm3inct_dbl_1920_160_45867837_1 and hadsm3fub_0006_05893194_7 4. There are NO “unusual or red-coloured messages in the \'Messages\' tab of BOINC manager. 5. Again, my concern is in loosing credit on these two models. John |
Send message Joined: 9 Jan 07 Posts: 467 Credit: 14,549,176 RAC: 317 |
The two models are: hadcm3inct_clbl_1920_160_45867837_1 and hadsm3fub_0006_005893194_7 The first model is a \'coupled\' model, with 160 trickles to be submitted, of which eight have so far been done; the second model is a \'slab\' model, with 72 trickles to be submitted in three phases, of which five have so far been reported. So both models have a considerable way to go before successful completion. However, completion can be reported in BOINC Manager if the models have crashed, but nothing is yet apparent on the results pages, which both say \'In progress\'. You have been credited with the correct amounts for the work completed so far: 8 * 259.2 for the coupled model and 5 * 94.5175 for the slab model. So, the questions are: 1. What makes you think the models are complete? 2. Are the models present in the Tasks tab of BOINC manager? If they have indeed crashed, but there is some sort of networking problem, then the best thing to do is to restore them from a back-up, if you have one, and resume as before. |
Send message Joined: 31 Jul 06 Posts: 5 Credit: 523,227 RAC: 0 |
I assume that the models have been completed since they both reached 100% There are no models in the Tasks except for the two that say, \"Ready to Report\" I don\'t know anything about backups since I don\'t see a backup option button. uote]The two models are: hadcm3inct_clbl_1920_160_45867837_1 and hadsm3fub_0006_005893194_7 |
Send message Joined: 5 Sep 04 Posts: 7629 Credit: 24,240,330 RAC: 0 |
It\'s NOT possible to lose credit already given to you. Unless you create another Account and start running models on that, which is what some people do for some reason. Accounts can\'t be merged. 100% complete is there because BOINC will think that they\'re complete if it loses contact with them for a certain period of time. If the tasks say Ready to Report, then that\'s it for those models, regsardless of why it says it. But in this case, it sounds as though they\'ve both crashed. BOINC has to be stopped and exited from before a backup is made. This is because BOINC keeps some files locked while it\'s still running. There are several methods for making a backup, as per the README file in my sig at the bottom of this post. The only problem now, is why your manager can\'t contact the server to send the Report message. It should also have asked for more work by now. Try this: 1) In the manager\'s menu, click on Exit. 2) Re-boot the computer. 3) In the Messages tab, click the \"Copy all messages\" button. 4) Post here again, and paste the messages into your post. This will give us something to work with. Just for future reference, all messages are archived into 2 files, which are in the BOINC folder: stdoutdae.txt, which contains ALL messages stderrdae.txt, which contains only the error messages Backups: Here |
Send message Joined: 29 Sep 04 Posts: 2363 Credit: 14,611,758 RAC: 0 |
Here\'s what Astro said about a similar problem yesterday about reporting APS workunits: http://www.apsathome.org//forum_thread.php?id=108 Does this mean that if John has clicked No new work for cpdn in the Projects tab, the Update button will have no effect and the results won\'t be reported? John\'s models are here: http://climateapps2.oucs.ox.ac.uk/cpdnboinc/results.php?hostid=681194 The crashed models that have failed to report are #1 and #4 on the list. Both last trickled on 3 July so my guess is that they both crashed soon after that. The first 4 models John received crashed with a 107 error code, usually graphics-related. Cpdn news |
Send message Joined: 5 Sep 04 Posts: 7629 Credit: 24,240,330 RAC: 0 |
That\'s the \'batching\' function of BOINC. (Intended to save on server time.) Here, the only effect of No new work/tasks should be just that. The only side effect is to not Report, which can be overcome by clicking Update, which has been done. Backups: Here |
Send message Joined: 9 Jan 07 Posts: 467 Credit: 14,549,176 RAC: 317 |
John has also said that update requests are being deferred. Does that suggest an unresolved network problem? Network activity is on, but neither the model error nor completion state has been reported. The slab model might plausibly have completed properly, but there\'s no chance of the coupled model finishing. As regards mo\'s reference to the APS behaviour, John is using BOINC 5.10, which suggests that a manual update is required (as Les says) - but he\'s done that and still no joy. |
Send message Joined: 5 Sep 04 Posts: 7629 Credit: 24,240,330 RAC: 0 |
Yes, it does look like a network problem to me. He\'s running oodles of projects, so I\'m wondering if he has problems with them as well. I\'m hoping that the messages will give us a clue. John You have several appearances of your computer, which can be fixed by using the Merge option at the bottom of any of the computer pages. Backups: Here |
Send message Joined: 31 Jul 06 Posts: 5 Credit: 523,227 RAC: 0 |
8/9/2007 8:09:10 PM||Starting BOINC client version 5.10.18 for windows_x86_64 8/9/2007 8:09:10 PM||log flags: task, file_xfer, sched_ops 8/9/2007 8:09:10 PM||Libraries: libcurl/7.16.4 OpenSSL/0.9.8e zlib/1.2.3 8/9/2007 8:09:10 PM||Data directory: C:\\Program Files\\BOINC 8/9/2007 8:09:12 PM||Processor: 2 GenuineIntel Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 6600 @ 2.40GHz [EM64T Family 6 Model 15 Stepping 6] 8/9/2007 8:09:12 PM||Processor features: fpu tsc pae nx sse sse2 pni 8/9/2007 8:09:12 PM||OS: Microsoft Windows Vista: , (06.00.6000.00) 8/9/2007 8:09:12 PM||Memory: 2.00 GB physical, 4.21 GB virtual 8/9/2007 8:09:12 PM||Disk: 279.46 GB total, 196.36 GB free 8/9/2007 8:09:12 PM||Local time is UTC -6 hours 8/9/2007 8:09:12 PM|BBC Climate Change Experiment|URL: http://bbc.cpdn.org/; Computer ID: 264916; location: (none); project prefs: default 8/9/2007 8:09:12 PM|proteins@home|URL: http://biology.polytechnique.fr/proteinsathome/; Computer ID: 24977; location: home; project prefs: default 8/9/2007 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default 8/9/2007 8:09:12 PM|World Community Grid|URL: http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/; Computer ID: 198679; location: (none); project prefs: default 8/9/2007 8:09:12 PM||General prefs: from SETI@home (last modified 2007-06-08 16:58:22) 8/9/2007 8:09:12 PM||Host location: home 8/9/2007 8:09:12 PM||General prefs: using separate prefs for home 8/9/2007 8:09:12 PM||Reading preferences override file 8/9/2007 8:09:12 PM||Preferences limit memory usage when active to 1534.45MB 8/9/2007 8:09:12 PM||Preferences limit memory usage when idle to 1943.64MB 8/9/2007 8:09:12 PM||Preferences limit disk usage to 93.13GB 8/9/2007 8:09:15 PM|World Community Grid|Restarting task lf387_00028_8 using hpf2 version 518 8/9/2007 8:09:16 PM|QMC@HOME|Restarting task two_114_peptidsm.1773_0 using Amolqc-preRC1 version 501 8/9/2007 8:09:17 PM|Rectilinear Crossing Numbers|Sending scheduler request: To fetch work 8/9/2007 8:09:17 PM|Rectilinear Crossing Numbers|Requesting 25249 seconds of new work 8/9/2007 8:09:19 PM|Rectilinear Crossing Numbers|Scheduler RPC succeeded [server version 504] 8/9/2007 8:09:19 PM|Rectilinear Crossing Numbers|Message from server: platform \'windows_x86_64\' not found 8/9/2007 8:09:19 PM|Rectilinear Crossing Numbers|Deferring communication for 11 min 45 sec 8/9/2007 8:09:19 PM|Rectilinear Crossing Numbers|Reason: no work from project 8/9/2007 8:21:09 PM|Rectilinear Crossing Numbers|Sending scheduler request: To fetch work 8/9/2007 8:21:09 PM|Rectilinear Crossing Numbers|Requesting 25218 seconds of new work 8/9/2007 8:21:14 PM|Rectilinear Crossing Numbers|Scheduler RPC succeeded [server version 504] 8/9/2007 8:21:14 PM|Rectilinear Crossing Numbers|Message from server: platform \'windows_x86_64\' not found 8/9/2007 8:21:14 PM|Rectilinear Crossing Numbers|Deferring communication for 6 min 6 sec 8/9/2007 8:21:14 PM|Rectilinear Crossing Numbers|Reason: no work from project 8/9/2007 8:22:24 PM||Contacting account manager at http://gridrepublic.org/ 8/9/2007 8:22:25 PM||Account manager contact succeeded 8/9/2007 8:22:29 PM|SETI@home|Sending scheduler request: Requested by account manager 8/9/2007 8:22:29 PM|SETI@home|(not requesting new work or reporting completed tasks) 8/9/2007 8:22:34 PM|SETI@home|Scheduler RPC succeeded [server version 511] 8/9/2007 8:22:34 PM|SETI@home|Deferring communication for 11 sec 8/9/2007 8:22:34 PM|SETI@home|Reason: requested by project 8/9/2007 8:27:25 PM|Rectilinear Crossing Numbers|Sending scheduler request: To fetch work 8/9/2007 8:27:25 PM|Rectilinear Crossing Numbers|Requesting 25218 seconds of new work 8/9/2007 8:27:30 PM|Rectilinear Crossing Numbers|Scheduler RPC succeeded [server version 504] 8/9/2007 8:27:30 PM|Rectilinear Crossing Numbers|Message from server: platform \'windows_x86_64\' not found 8/9/2007 8:27:30 PM|Rectilinear Crossing Numbers|Deferring communication for 49 min 45 sec 8/9/2007 8:27:30 PM|Rectilinear Crossing Numbers|Reason: no work from project 8/9/2007 9:17:16 PM|Rectilinear Crossing Numbers|Sending scheduler request: To fetch work 8/9/2007 9:17:16 PM|Rectilinear Crossing Numbers|Requesting 25319 seconds of new work 8/9/2007 9:17:22 PM|Rectilinear Crossing Numbers|Scheduler RPC succeeded [server version 504] 8/9/2007 9:17:22 PM|Rectilinear Crossing Numbers|Message from server: platform \'windows_x86_64\' not found 8/9/2007 9:17:22 PM|Rectilinear Crossing Numbers|Deferring communication for 3 hr 28 min 9 sec 8/9/2007 9:17:22 PM|Rectilinear Crossing Numbers|Reason: no work from project 8/9/2007 9:22:26 PM||Contacting account manager at http://gridrepublic.org/ 8/9/2007 9:22:27 PM||Account manager contact succeeded 8/9/2007 9:22:27 PM|SETI@home|Sending scheduler request: Requested by account manager 8/9/2007 9:22:27 PM|SETI@home|(not requesting new work or reporting completed tasks) 8/9/2007 9:22:33 PM|SETI@home|Scheduler RPC succeeded [server version 511] 8/9/2007 9:22:33 PM|SETI@home|Deferring communication for 11 sec 8/9/2007 9:22:33 PM|SETI@home|Reason: requested by project 8/9/2007 9:46:32 PM|World Community Grid|Computation for task lf387_00028_8 finished 8/9/2007 9:46:32 PM|rosetta@home|Restarting task t382__BOINC_ABRELAX_FILTERS-t382_-curated_hom001__1812_6245_0 using rosetta version 568 8/9/2007 9:46:34 PM|World Community Grid|[file_xfer] Started upload of file lf387_00028_8_0 8/9/2007 9:46:39 PM|World Community Grid|[file_xfer] Finished upload of file lf387_00028_8_0 8/9/2007 9:46:39 PM|World Community Grid|[file_xfer] Throughput 68398 bytes/sec 8/9/2007 10:00:04 PM|World Community Grid|Sending scheduler request: Requested by user 8/9/2007 10:00:04 PM|World Community Grid|Reporting 1 tasks 8/9/2007 10:00:10 PM|World Community Grid|Scheduler RPC succeeded [server version 509] 8/9/2007 10:00:10 PM|World Community Grid|Deferring communication for 5 min 3 sec 8/9/2007 10:00:10 PM|World Community Grid|Reason: requested by project 8/9/2007 10:00:40 PM|World Community Grid|Sending scheduler request: Requested by user 8/9/2007 10:00:40 PM|World Community Grid|(not requesting new work or reporting completed tasks) 8/9/2007 10:00:45 PM|World Community Grid|Scheduler RPC succeeded [server version 509] 8/9/2007 10:00:45 PM|World Community Grid|Deferring communication for 5 min 3 sec 8/9/2007 10:00:45 PM|World Community Grid|Reason: requested by project
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Send message Joined: 31 Jul 06 Posts: 5 Credit: 523,227 RAC: 0 |
8/9/2007 8:09:10 PM||Starting BOINC client version 5.10.18 for windows_x86_64 |
Send message Joined: 5 Sep 04 Posts: 7629 Credit: 24,240,330 RAC: 0 |
Starting BOINC client version 5.10.18 for windows_x86_64 climateprediction.net|Message from server: platform \'windows_x86_64\' not found You\'re running a 64 bit version of BOINC. This project doesn\'t have 64 bit applications, and the server software hasn\'t yet been updated to the new version, which will send 32bit apps when a 64bit client requests 64bit apps. There is no solid information on when the server upgrade will occur. In the meantime, you CAN\'T return certain parts of a model. This problem has been posted about numerous times on these boards, along with the cure. I can\'t remember what it is, so you\'ll have to wait for someone else to post it, or you can use the search facility to look for the previous messages about it. Backups: Here |
Send message Joined: 13 Jan 06 Posts: 1498 Credit: 15,613,038 RAC: 0 |
I see that CPDN isn\'t the only project on his list with the problem. Ywo possible cures: one is to use Boinc 5.10.x 32-bit. * If you\'re running any projects which do have genuine 64-bit workunits then set \'no more work\' against them until they\'ve run out, * Take a backup of your boinc installation (see the READMEs for instructions). * install the 32-bit version (http://boinc.berkeley.edu/download_all.php), * report the work from the various projects which are stuck, and then * (optional) reinstall the 64-bit version The projects which haven\'t been updated for the 64-bit version won\'t give you any more work. Note that in most cases, \'64-bit work\' is actually normal 32-bit work. There are few projects which actually need or use 64-bit instruction sets. The second cure is to wait for 64-bit support to be installed here. But since the uploads are probably on the verge of timing out, I wouldn\'t recommend that. I'm a volunteer and my views are my own. News and Announcements and FAQ |
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