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21) Questions and Answers : Windows : Bug narrowed down : [climateprediction.net] Computation for result xxxx finished (Message 5895) Posted 3 Nov 2004 by old_user169 Post: I found something more, that looks suspicious in stderr_um.txt : ... OPEN: File dataout/2z86ca.dap3bj0 Created on Unit 22 OPEN: File dataout/2z86ca.dap3bm0 Created on Unit 22 OPEN: File dataout/2z86ca.dap3bp0 Created on Unit 22 OPEN: File dataout/2z86ca.dap3bs0 Created on Unit 22 OPEN: File dataout/2z86ca.dap3c10 Created on Unit 22 CLOSE: WARNING: Unit 60 Not Opened OPEN: File dataout/2z86ca.pap4c10 Created on Unit 60 CLOSE: WARNING: Unit 63 Not Opened OPEN: File dataout/2z86ca.pdp4c10 Created on Unit 63 CLOSE: WARNING: Unit 64 Not Opened OPEN: File dataout/2z86ca.pep4c10 Created on Unit 64 CLOSE: WARNING: Unit 65 Not Opened OPEN: File dataout/2z86ca.pfp4c10 Created on Unit 65 CLOSE: WARNING: Unit 66 Not Opened OPEN: File dataout/2z86ca.pgp4c10 Created on Unit 66 CLOSE: WARNING: Unit 67 Not Opened OPEN: File dataout/2z86ca.php4c10 Created on Unit 67 OPEN: File dataout/2z86ca.dap3c40 Created on Unit 22 OPEN: File dataout/2z86ca.dap3c70 Created on Unit 22 OPEN: File dataout/2z86ca.dap3ca0 Created on Unit 22 ... The other model that has been destroyed did not have any error in this file.
22) Questions and Answers : Windows : Bug narrowed down : [climateprediction.net] Computation for result xxxx finished (Message 5894) Posted 3 Nov 2004 by old_user169 Post: After stopping BOINC for a moment and then restarting it, it destroyed 2 results : stdout.txt = 2004-11-03 20:40:28 [---] Starting BOINC client version 4.13 for windows_intelx86 2004-11-03 20:40:28 [climateprediction.net] Project prefs: using separate prefs for school 2004-11-03 20:40:28 [LHC@home] Project prefs: using separate prefs for school 2004-11-03 20:40:28 [climateprediction.net] Host ID is 46600 2004-11-03 20:40:28 [LHC@home] Host ID is 17130 2004-11-03 20:40:28 [---] General prefs: from LHC@home (last modified 2004-11-02 22:50:22) 2004-11-03 20:40:28 [---] General prefs: using separate prefs for school 2004-11-03 20:40:28 [climateprediction.net] Resuming computation for result 2z86_000160367_1 using hadsm3 version 4.03 2004-11-03 20:40:28 [climateprediction.net] Resuming computation for result 30jy_000162104_1 using hadsm3 version 4.03 2004-11-03 20:40:29 [LHC@home] Started upload of v64lhc1000protwelve-58s8_1053.42_1_sixvf_39751_0_0 2004-11-03 20:40:29 [LHC@home] Started upload of v64lhc1000protwelve-59s10_12553.46_1_sixvf_42652_1_0 2004-11-03 20:40:29 [climateprediction.net] Computation for result 2z86_000160367 finished 2004-11-03 20:40:29 [climateprediction.net] Starting result 3siy_000198715_0 using hadsm3 version 4.04 2004-11-03 20:40:29 [climateprediction.net] Computation for result 30jy_000162104 finished stderr.txt = 2004-11-03 20:40:29 [climateprediction.net] Unrecoverable error for result 2z86_000160367_1 ( - exit code -1 (0xffffffff)) 2004-11-03 20:40:29 [climateprediction.net] Unrecoverable error for result 30jy_000162104_1 ( - exit code -1 (0xffffffff)) 2004-11-03 20:40:29 [climateprediction.net] Deferring communication with project for 1 minutes and 0 seconds It happened while LHC has been completely unreachable, not sure if the problem is related to that but the chance is quite high as it immediately tried to upload a bunch of LHC results which of course failed. After stopping BOINC again, I saw that hadsm3um_4.03_windows_intelx86.exe was still running although all other BOINC processes have been gone. This might be a reason for this failure too of course. BOINC 4.13 / Win2k SP4 / Dual Athlon MP 2600+ I have saved all XML and project files and will report the two damaged WUs now : <a>resultid=268718</a> <a>resultid=261770</a> If you need any of the files to help figure out the problem, I can upload them to some web space. 90 trickles lost in BOINC space :Â´(
23) Questions and Answers : Preferences : Won\'t run multi processors (Message 5880) Posted 3 Nov 2004 by old_user169 Post: > It looks to me like your system used to have hyper-threading enabled in the > BIOS but has been rebooted with the option disabled, Stuart. Wouldn't the host status page say "Number of CPUs : 1" then? Could be a "Venue" problem too, if @Home is set to use only 1 CPU and the Xeon used to be @Work but switched to @Home for some reason (the Venue setting sometimes gets lost) In this case it would be safer to set it to 2 CPUs @Home too
24) Questions and Answers : Unix/Linux : Finished WU - Data still in my computer (Message 5849) Posted 1 Nov 2004 by old_user169 Post: > you can remove it, the intention was that we had hoped people have lots of > hard drive space in case we get an interesting result and you can upload some > more files. Sort of like if you were running SETI, and it took a month to run > one workunit, but your computer found the alien it would be nice to get more > info back rather than put it over to a supercomputer and wait! ;-) http://climateapps2.oucs.ox.ac.uk/cpdnboinc/result.php?resultid=26793 Doesn't look like a successful upload somehow ... Different problem than http://climateapps2.oucs.ox.ac.uk/cpdnboinc/forum_thread.php?id=1131 but there seems to be something quite unstable with those final uploads @groucho : If you don't like your alien, send it to me plz., I am mighty curious about it :-)
25) Questions and Answers : Unix/Linux : Model finished but won\'t submit (Message 5827) Posted 1 Nov 2004 by old_user169 Post: > OK, it looks like your original model finished and uploaded the result files > (there would be 00yy*_[1-5].zip files otherwise), but you just need to reset > to complete download of the 4.04 CPDN files. http://climateapps2.oucs.ox.ac.uk/cpdnboinc/workunit.php?wuid=15836 (the model where the result belongs to) still is in state "In Progress" with outcome "unknown" though
26) Questions and Answers : Windows : BOINC won\'t run (Message 5824) Posted 1 Nov 2004 by old_user169 Post: gstate.init has only very few error conditions : - something is wrong with the directory structure and they cannot be created - something is wrong with the account file(s) I cannot tell you more exact but maybe this gives you an idea what to look for. Maybe the line above this last line helps to find out more. If it is some file / directory damage, a scandisk might help btw., especially if you're on FAT/FAT32 file system. If you cannot figure it out, maybe post stdout.txt and especially stderr.txt here.
27) Questions and Answers : Windows : What caused computer freeze? (Message 5761) Posted 29 Oct 2004 by old_user169 Post: The setting you are talking about must be "Connect to network about every xxx days" This is a misunderstanding - it does not tell BOINC to connect every 10th day but to keep a work buffer for at least xxx days. You can disable LAN access for BOINC only through the "file" menu (Windows GUI version). If LAN access is not diabled, it will connect each time it has finished something or needs a new model or sends out a trickle. If BOINC is not working on a model / work unit but still shows activity in the task manager, the reason might be that it tries to connect or updates the graphics on the tabs "Disc" or "Work". Try setting the tab to "Messages" and the BOINC program itself will use less CPU. Minimize it to the tray should do the same.
28) Questions and Answers : Unix/Linux : BOINC cant find http://climateprediction.net (Message 5738) Posted 28 Oct 2004 by old_user169 Post: You could try to create the file account_climateprediction.net.xml from an existing one of a different project with [master_url]http://climateprediction.net/[/master_url] [authenticator](yours)[/authenticator] [project_name]climateprediction.net[/project_name] Not too much project specific in it, just two tags [color_scheme]Tahiti Sunset[/color_scheme] [name_old](your account here I think)[/name_old] and then restart the client. Einen Versuch ist's wert, viel Glueck :-)
29) Questions and Answers : Wish list : Hyper Threading (HT): Pause of one processor half during working hours (Message 5714) Posted 28 Oct 2004 by old_user169 Post: A (not perfect) solution that _should_ work if you run boinc_cli.exe as a service or work on a unix : - keep 2 copies of global_prefs.xml on your HD, one with {max_cpus}2{/max_cpus} and one with {max_cpus}1{/max_cpus} Everytime you want to switch the number of CPUs : - shutdown BOINC using "net stop BOINC" or kill it with the PID from the process list - copy global_prefs.xml.1 or global_prefs.xml.2 to global_prefs.xml - restart BOINC This will only work until BOINC updates the preferences from the project server, so it might work acceptable with CPDN most of the time. If you have projects that contact the server more often, it will not help so much though. ________ If it does not work so well, this might be worth a try : For @work set "On multiprocessors, use at most 1 processors" For @home set "On multiprocessors, use at most 2 processors" Everytime you want to switch the number of CPUs : - shutdown BOINC (same as above) - in client_state.xml set the entry {host_venue} to work or home - restart BOINC The modification of the venue can be done with sed or awk on Unix, on Windows you can use findstr in a batch file. In this case using just 2 copies with different venues will not work as the file is updated frequently - it would do damage to your models if you tried that.
30) Questions and Answers : Wish list : Board link on home.php not always correct (Message 5713) Posted 28 Oct 2004 by old_user169 Post: A minor bug : If a user name ("aaa bbb") contains a space, this currently will generate something like ".../search.php?search_author=aaa" bbb="" Would be better to use htmlentities() on the user name before generating links for it : ".../search.php?search_author=aaa%20bbb"
31) Questions and Answers : Windows : trickles not uploading after downloading BOINC v4.13 on WIN XP (Message 5383) Posted 15 Oct 2004 by old_user169 Post: Could well be just an update problem on the web site. It didn't add trickles for more than 24 hours now. If the server contacts the scheduler now and then (1-2 contacts / day), without you having done anything and the scheduler result is "succeeded" (message window), the trickles should count. It has been the same a few days ago, no trickles counted for some time, but then they all came, the ones that have been missed showed up too even with the correct trickle time. Just make sure that "disable BOINC network access" is not checked in the menu. p.s.: not guaranteed of course, could be a 4.12/4.13 related problem too.
32) Questions and Answers : Windows : Project paused (Message 5335) Posted 14 Oct 2004 by old_user169 Post: Another possible reason : It's CPU time what it counts there, not realtime. I had such an effect when I had 2 tasks on a dual CPU machine but needed to finish a few Seti Classic WUs - but of course didn't want to stop BOINC for that or set it to 1 CPU only. So if you use a lot of CPU time for something else or if your computer goes into power saving mode sometimes, realtime and CPU time for the BOINC tasks can differ a lot.
33) Questions and Answers : Windows : >>for germans (Message 5316) Posted 13 Oct 2004 by old_user169 Post: Merzi :-) Das erklaert alles.
34) Questions and Answers : Windows : >>for germans (Message 5306) Posted 13 Oct 2004 by old_user169 Post: > ... > > Es geht um den Strich zuviel, der die alte innerdeutsche Grenzlinie > markiert. > > > > Welcher Strich? Etwa die Grenze zu Polen? Die war schon immer da, auch wenn > sie manchem zu weit im Westen liegt. Aber die "deutschen Ostgebiete" sind nun > mal verloren! So langsam bezweifle ich, dass wir das gleiche sehen. Ich habe 'mal einen Screenshot (CPDN 4.03) gemacht : http://oct31.de/tmp/cpdn_de.png Zum Vergleich http://www.unwetterzentrale.de/uwz/index.html als aktuelle schematische Karte. Eindeutig ist auf der CPDN-Karte eine Grenze zwischen Niedersachsen und Sachsen-Anhalt usw. zu sehen. edit: Und wenn ich zu doof bin, das richtig zu erkennen, bin ich wenigstens nicht der einzige. Im SG-BOINC-Forum ist es am 1.9. noch mehr Leuten aufgefallen - ich hatte das nur nicht mitbekommen.
35) Questions and Answers : Windows : >>for germans (Message 5295) Posted 13 Oct 2004 by old_user169 Post: > ... > Es ist eindeutig, gerade mit Zoom die heutige Situation. Man beachte die > Grenze zur Tschechischen Repuplik. Die war zu BRD Zeiten nie so lang. Es geht um den Strich zuviel, der die alte innerdeutsche Grenzlinie markiert. > Man braucht Ã¼brigens kein Politikstudium dafÃ¼r, die Tugend halbwegs im > Geographie-Unterricht aufzupassen reicht allemal. Diese Aussage ist nur korrekt fuer Schueler, die noch nach ~1990 Geographieunterricht hatten. Meiner liegt laenger zurueck (und ich war nie gut darin). Um Missverstaendnisse zu vermeiden, ich bin nur Hilfskraft auf diesem Account, der Owner ist glaube ich juenger. Bin selbst noch nicht auf BOINC umgestiegen.
36) Questions and Answers : Windows : >>for germans (Message 5264) Posted 12 Oct 2004 by old_user169 Post: > Also, es ist eindeutig die heutige Situation ... Wenn ich zoome, sehe ich das, was baracutio beschreibt. Bei den vielen Verschiebungen, Neu- und Wiedergruendungen in den letzten Jahren verliert aber doch wohl jeder, der nicht Politik studiert oder Nachrichten verfasst, den Ueberblick. Fuer den European Song Contest (oder wie das Teil auch immer heisst) brauchte man ja schon Widescreen, damit einig der neuen Namen nicht abgeschnitten werden *g @baracutio : Ich kann Dich beruhigen, bin in den vergangenen 2 Wochen oefters hin und zurueck gefahren, ausser ein paar Grenz-Museen ist da nicht mehr viel zu sehen.
37) Questions and Answers : Preferences : Bonic downloads new data before other data is done. (Message 5204) Posted 10 Oct 2004 by old_user169 Post: I had such a problem with Seti Classic already - but it happened only on FAT file system, never on NTFS. So although FAT is slightly faster and NTFS is accessible only from certain operating systems (only important on complete system crashes), NTFS is better for applications that run all the time. edit: Just in case, you could put a small batch file to your "autostart", that copies all XML files from the BOINC base directory to a backup location somewhere else on your HD.
38) Questions and Answers : Windows : There was work but you don't have enough disk space allocated (Message 5201) Posted 10 Oct 2004 by old_user169 Post: > I have more than 700 MB free on my disk and boinc can use more than 1GB so i > don't know what to do The setting (general preferences) "Use no more than xx% of total space" might be a problem too. If you have 1GB free but allow only 50% for BOINC, it still might not fit. ___ If you use NTFS you can compress complete directories btw., right-click them in Explorer and in the properties you'll find "Compress". Can save quite much space on certain folders. This compression is transparent, you can still use them like "normal" folders.
39) Questions and Answers : Windows : Lost Work Unit (Message 5189) Posted 10 Oct 2004 by old_user169 Post: > hmmm, it sounds like the client_state.xml file in boinc got messed up. There > may be a backup file (named "client_state_prev.xml") that you could experiment > with copying over? Similar problem, different question : Something similar happened to me too while attaching to S@H - system freeze and had to reinstall BOINC. Both client_state(_prev).xml didn't contain those two (it's a 2-CPU machine) Climate models anymore so they are lost for this run. Now the question : Wouldn't it make sense for a project with long running work units to find a way to invalidate them? If it works like it does now, the first chance that those models will be delivered again will be in about one year so the result might arrive in maybe two years - needs a lot of patience for the project scientists :-/

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