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1) Message boards : Number crunching : WAH2 CREDITS SET TO LOW (Message 52616)
Posted 23 Sep 2015 by Profile Conan
Yes, it's the hadam3pm2 I was concerned about. My thought is to let it go on for a while to see if its "slowness" persists. It's possible I'm wrong, or getting excited prematurely; in any case it should be clearer after a few more days.

Actually, I'm really curious to know if anyone else running the model has encountered the same issues--or not.


G'Day jrapdx,

I have noticed the same on my AMD 1090 Phenom, first estimate was for 96 Hours to completion. After running for 8 and 3/4 hours it is now up to 113 Hours to run with just 0.257% completed. That's an estimate of 3,284 Hours run time.
That is getting back to the old days when Climate ran for months to get a WU to complete.
I doubt that it will take this long and that the original 96 Hours is closer to the mark, however going on a previous failed WU it will take over 250 hours.

Conan
2) Message boards : Number crunching : Linux/Mac/Windows segmentation (Message 51881)
Posted 23 Apr 2015 by Profile Conan
I have a couple of Fedora 16 64 bit systems. To start my BOINC sessions I would click on the "Files" icon to launch the files system, navigate to the BOINC folder and then start BOINC.
I would leave the "Files" open so I could easily go back to check things in BOINC or the Download folder or other files searches.

I found after doing this for a long time without a computer reboot (such as long running projects that restart from scratch if you start BOINC again), that my systems start to slow down and I start having memory issues.

The "Files" programme starts to use a lot of resources over time.

By closing it down when I am not using it (after I have done my file searches, started BOINC or installed some download), I found that the whole system came back to life and I got my memory back (the computers memory, not mine as that is already lost).

So an innocent programme could be causing you an issue.

Conan
3) Message boards : Number crunching : credit anomaly MOSES_eu vs MOSES_global 25% for eu? (Message 51793)
Posted 9 Apr 2015 by Profile Conan
Thanks to all who helped in getting this done.

Conan
4) Message boards : Number crunching : credit anomaly MOSES_eu vs MOSES_global 25% for eu? (Message 51765)
Posted 5 Apr 2015 by Profile Conan
Les,

Yes, thanks, I know this, I was responding to a couple of lower down replies as to me the issue did not seem clear.

I am still processing them even with the much lower credits, as I am hoping the science or results, may come to something useful.

Thanks to the moderators for their response in this matter.

Conan
5) Message boards : Number crunching : what is this stupid message (Message 51764)
Posted 5 Apr 2015 by Profile Conan
I'm set to get new work, but communication keeps getting deferred for one hour. In the meantime, Einstein and Seti continue working just fine.


The only work for Linux at the moment (as of today 5th April) is

hadam3prm3pm2t_eu (hadam3p global model with hadrm3p regional model with MOSES II land scheme and TRIFFID available) (currently no graphics) (Linux only)
Tasks ready to send 13,462

If you have your setting set to receive all model types you should pick some of these ones up.

Conan
6) Message boards : Number crunching : credit anomaly MOSES_eu vs MOSES_global 25% for eu? (Message 51758)
Posted 4 Apr 2015 by Profile Conan
As I noted in an earlier message

[Quote]I noticed that the credit awarded is exactly the same as the other (non-MOSES) Europe work unit type, so perhaps they have just got it mixed up.

17791628 9545343 17 Jan 2015 5:09:11 UTC 6 Feb 2015 18:15:18 UTC Completed 1,004,026.51 888,650.10 2,389.90 2,389.90 UK Met Office HadAM3P and HadRM3P model with MOSES II and TRIFFID Europe v7.01

17635813 9423239 8 Jan 2015 11:02:12 UTC 14 Jan 2015 4:05:09 UTC Completed 313,293.72 216.84 2,389.90 2,389.90 UK Met Office HadAM3P-HadRM3P Europe v7.23
[Quote]

They seem to have used the same crediting system for each Europe model even though they are completely different models.

Conan
7) Message boards : Number crunching : credit anomaly MOSES_eu vs MOSES_global 25% for eu? (Message 51750)
Posted 3 Apr 2015 by Profile Conan
This model is still not getting the correct credits, less than a 3rd of what they should be getting.

Conan
8) Message boards : Number crunching : How badly did I get screwed? (Message 51718)
Posted 28 Mar 2015 by Profile Conan
I don't have any A10 or similar CPUs but I have the older Phenom II type CPUs and to give you an idea of their run times on a couple of different models here they are (they run at 3.2 GHz standard clock, running Linux Fedora 16 64 bit)

This is quoted RUN Time, CPU Time is often quite a bit less,

MOSES II Landsurface Scheme around 1,008,800 seconds (280 Hours)

MOSES II and TRIFFID Europe around 1,004,000 seconds (279 Hours)

Coupled Model Full Resolution Ocean from 1,230,000 to 1,550,000 seconds (341 to 430 Hours)

I currently have 2 MOSES II and TRIFFID models running and they are

192 Hours at 67% with 92 Hours to go
242 Hours at 83% with 47 Hours to go

This at least will give you an idea as to what to expect, I am hoping that as you have much more recent chips then the times will be a lot lower, I am hoping this as I will have to update soon myself.

Conan
9) Questions and Answers : Windows : CPDN gone from Project tab after crash (Message 51646)
Posted 17 Mar 2015 by Profile Conan
Rather than re-attach to the project, which might cause multiple host instances, just try stopping BOINC, closing it then restarting it. You should not need to reboot but as it may be a driver issue then perhaps a reboot will sort everything out.

Conan
10) Message boards : Number crunching : credit anomaly MOSES_eu vs MOSES_global 25% for eu? (Message 51621)
Posted 13 Mar 2015 by Profile Conan
Does anyone know if this credit error was corrected?

I am not keen to run this WU I have just downloaded for 1,000,000 seconds only to find I am getting a 5th of the credit I should be getting for this WU type.

Conan
11) Questions and Answers : Unix/Linux : Multiple CP task management (Message 51410)
Posted 13 Feb 2015 by Profile Conan
Are you sure that your preferences are set to use 100% of CPU and to use all 2 cores available?

If it is not on 100% then BOINC sees the 1000 hour work unit as more important and throws most resources at that problem.

Conan
12) Questions and Answers : Windows : why does my anti-virus program think "hadam3p_afr_7.22_windows_intelx86.exe" is malware? (Message 51409)
Posted 13 Feb 2015 by Profile Conan
Hi,
I found for TrendMicro, that the web-reputation service is causing the problem.
The web-reputation service doesn't allow a download from the download share you are using for the boinc program files like "hadam3p_afr_7.22_windows_intelx86.exe".
The project program files are created, but only contain the info text from web-reputation service.

Will try to post the web-reputation message from file tonight.


I was having TrendMicro block a number of Climate models. I was able to check under threats what was blocked and then allowed for this to be excluded from now on, also sent of information to TrendMicro that these are false positives.

All now working OK.

Conan
13) Message boards : Number crunching : credit anomaly MOSES_eu vs MOSES_global 25% for eu? (Message 51374)
Posted 7 Feb 2015 by Profile Conan
I noticed that the credit awarded is exactly the same as the other (non-MOSES) Europe work unit type, so perhaps they have just got it mixed up.

17791628 9545343 17 Jan 2015 5:09:11 UTC 6 Feb 2015 18:15:18 UTC Completed 1,004,026.51 888,650.10 2,389.90 2,389.90 UK Met Office HadAM3P and HadRM3P model with MOSES II and TRIFFID Europe v7.01

17635813 9423239 8 Jan 2015 11:02:12 UTC 14 Jan 2015 4:05:09 UTC Completed 313,293.72 216.84 2,389.90 2,389.90 UK Met Office HadAM3P-HadRM3P Europe v7.23

Conan
14) Message boards : Number crunching : credit anomaly MOSES_eu vs MOSES_global 25% for eu? (Message 51371)
Posted 6 Feb 2015 by Profile Conan
I have now reported one of these work unit types, and am seeing the same issue.

The MOSES (Global Only) type I reported last year gave 10,064.32 credits, the Europe model gives just 2,191.17 credits for a similar run time.

I wont be doing any more of these as the return is not really worth it (7 cr/hr).

Conan
15) Message boards : Number crunching : Is "Invalid Theta Detected" always due to bad work units? (Message 51358)
Posted 4 Feb 2015 by Profile Conan
Well they are still happening as I just had about 6 fail over the last day with this error, they run for about 21 minutes then fail.
All are new work units not ones from last October.

This is on a Windows XP 32 Bit machine.

Conan
16) Message boards : Number crunching : HadCM3 short errors (Message 51327)
Posted 27 Jan 2015 by Profile Conan
Your failures all are for work units that were made back in Sept '14 and a few from Oct '14, no one has been able to run these work units they are faulty. The successful ones you have run come from Jan '15.

We seem to have to wait till they all cycle through the system to get rid of them.

I have been getting similar errors.

Conan
17) Message boards : climateprediction.net Science : Climate change in the News (Message 51326)
Posted 27 Jan 2015 by Profile Conan
Australia temperatures rising faster than rest of the world: official report

Australia faced a rise in temperature of potentially more than 5 degrees celsius (41 degrees fahrenheit) by the end of the century, an increase that would outpace global warming worldwide, the country's national science agency said on Tuesday.

NB: A rise of 5 degrees C is 9 degrees F. It is not an absolute temperature. Some journalist needs to go back to school.


Scary stuff if proven true. Things do seem to be a bit warmer than when I was younger, but then here on the east coast of Australia that is subjective, we had 35 degrees C on Sunday (2 days ago) and yesterday (Monday) we had 19 degrees C. This is in the middle of an Aussie summer, very weird.

The journalist was sort of close, as going from a starting point of Zero degrees C you get 32 degrees F and 9 degrees F plus the 32 gives 41 degrees F. That person has just twisted around how the 9 degrees F was applied, probably to sensationalise the article, truth has never gotten in the way of a good story, it is usually just pushed to the side.

Conan
18) Questions and Answers : Windows : Multiple download errors (Message 51325)
Posted 27 Jan 2015 by Profile Conan
I downloaded the links and sent a link to TrendMicro to re-evaluate the download site.
I was then able to get a Short work unit to download and start running.
Unfortunately it was one of the ones from October and failed just like it has for all who have processed this WU.

Trying for another download to see if I can get one to run full term.

Conan
19) Questions and Answers : Windows : Multiple download errors (Message 51318)
Posted 27 Jan 2015 by Profile Conan
Thanks Thyme Lawn, those links you have posted are they safe?
My antivirus (TrendMicro) claims that they are Dangerous Web Pages and involved in scams and malicious activity, advising me to not to go to that web page.

Conan
20) Questions and Answers : Windows : Multiple download errors (Message 51313)
Posted 26 Jan 2015 by Profile Conan
Thanks for the reply Dave.

Unfortunately doing a detach and reattach (which I had done a few days ago) did not make any difference, still can't download a Short model.

BOINC shows that I have over 23 GB available and I can't see any problems with my preferences that would cause a download issue.

It is strange, as all the support files that get downloaded with each work unit, download without an issue, but the main file dies.

Conan


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