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Posts by zombie67 [MM]

21) Message boards : Number crunching : Credit Question Answered (Message 69344)
Posted 17 Jul 2023 by zombie67 [MM]
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Credit is effortless for other projects. I am guessing the issue is self-inflicted, by using modified/custom code. Stop using custom code, and the technical effort goes away.

WRT server vs. client managing credit, I think that is not relevant to this discussion. That should be a discussion with the BOINC development folks. I assume DA is still the gate keeper.

Finally, I think the "benefit to scientists" comment was perhaps misunderstood. Issuing credit reliably brings increased computing resources to the scientists. Perhaps this project could get SOME resources without it. But I am sure it could get MORE with it.

All IMO, of course.
22) Message boards : Number crunching : New work discussion - 2 (Message 69246)
Posted 11 Jul 2023 by zombie67 [MM]
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Deadlines for this new batch are still a year out. Not good.
23) Message boards : Number crunching : New work discussion - 2 (Message 69021)
Posted 28 Jun 2023 by zombie67 [MM]
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My Win7 is running three 8.24 wah2 using 423 MB each.


Same. These tasks do not use a lot of RAM compared to others.
24) Message boards : Number crunching : New work discussion - 2 (Message 69005)
Posted 27 Jun 2023 by zombie67 [MM]
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Edit:Uploads are now working. Just seen message from Andy and can confirm mine are going.


Uploads are still not working for me. "Transient HTTP error".
25) Message boards : Number crunching : East Asia testing. (Message 68961)
Posted 24 Jun 2023 by zombie67 [MM]
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I just noticed that the due date is a year from now. Yikes. It will take years to get these bad tasks flushed out of the system.
26) Message boards : Number crunching : New work discussion - 2 (Message 68909)
Posted 16 Jun 2023 by zombie67 [MM]
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Do we have an ETA yet?
No news since that message. I have seen, "soon" mean the following day but also mean another month. Any update I give at this point would not be speaking ex-cathedra.

Got it. Thanks for the update, even if the update is "no new news".
27) Message boards : Number crunching : New work discussion - 2 (Message 68907)
Posted 15 Jun 2023 by zombie67 [MM]
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The researcher for the EAS tasks has discussed the results with her professor and there were some concerns about the spin up results but they have decided everything is within range and the mainsite tasks will be released, "very soon."


Do we have an ETA yet?
28) Message boards : Number crunching : New work discussion - 2 (Message 68877)
Posted 8 Jun 2023 by zombie67 [MM]
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Looking forward to it. Which app would that be?
Weather at Home Windows tasks.


About how much RAM per task will be required?
29) Message boards : Number crunching : Credit Question Answered (Message 68851)
Posted 6 Jun 2023 by zombie67 [MM]
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If some extra credit is awarded accidentally, is that a bad thing really? There have been plenty of times where credit are lost accidentally, right?
30) Message boards : Number crunching : Server Status page questions (Message 68649)
Posted 15 Apr 2023 by zombie67 [MM]
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The numbers for OpenIFS 43r3 Baroclinic Lifecycle just changed dramatically. It was something like 150 in progress, and in a single day it dropped to ~50. Weird. The other two OpenIFS sub projects haven't changed in days.
31) Message boards : Number crunching : OpenIFS Discussion (Message 68626)
Posted 23 Mar 2023 by zombie67 [MM]
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The project has 45.600 active work units which don't seem to finish ever.


Don't believe the numbers on the server status page. If you add up all the tasks in progress for the individual projects at the bottom os the page (25,646), it is not even close to the the total number in the upper right (45,600). I don't believe either of those numbers. If I had to guess, there are no more than just a few thousand tasks actually in progress.
32) Message boards : Number crunching : Server Status page questions (Message 68610)
Posted 20 Mar 2023 by zombie67 [MM]
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Assuming they are real tasks and not ghosts, of course.
I think they are probably a mixture of ghosts and tasks belonging to computers that are either dead or no longer running boinc. Moderators have raised this with the project in the past and the slab models have since been removed from the server status page. The next to go i would guess will be the coupled model full resolution ocean ones. There will be a lot of the regional wah2 models as well as the region independent ones that also fall in the category of being ghosts/belonging to machines that will never be heard of again.



It sounds like you are saying that obsolete tasks should be removed. But is that a thing that is actually happening now? Ot just something that you think may possibly happen? And if so, when?

Clarity is a good thing, which then leads to less questions. But it feels to me like getting clear answers here are rare. Why is it this way with this project? Does it have to be this way? I am not pointing fingers at anyone in particular, because I have no real understanding of the organizational structure, and the various roles of the few people we even know about. Why can't the people doing the actual science and/or the bionic server work take 15 minutes per week and talk about what is going on? For example, WRT adding the ability to choose sub-projects in the bionic project preferences for users. Who is working on that, if anyone? And can we talk to that person?
33) Message boards : Number crunching : Server Status page questions (Message 68608)
Posted 19 Mar 2023 by zombie67 [MM]
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4731 tasks in progress that are not needed? That is a huge amount of electricity and time being wasted. IMO, they should be aborted by the server. Folks crunching them are already awarded credits for work done via trickles. So no need to worry about loss of credits. Assuming they are real tasks and not ghosts, of course.

This applies to any of the sub-projects that are no longer needed.
34) Message boards : Number crunching : Server Status page questions (Message 68600)
Posted 18 Mar 2023 by zombie67 [MM]
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How accurate is the Server Status page? Specifically the "In progress", "Runtime of last 100 tasks in hours: average, min, max", and "Users in last 24 hours" columns? I ask because something doesn't seem right. Examples:

Weather At Home 2 (wah2): 17k tasks in progress, yet the "Users in last 24 hours" column is just 1. I am assuming that column means users that have returned a task in the last 24 hours. Maybe I misunderstand that column. But if it means what I think it does, with 17k tasks in progress, only 1 returned in the last 24 hours? That can't be right.

Six other apps have no values for runtime or users columns, yet they have hundreds of tasks in progress each. Surely that cannot be right. And even if the users column is accurate, the runtime of the last 100 should still be populated.

So what am I missing? Maybe the issue is that all those thousands of tasks in progress are really ghosts, and not actually in progress? Or...?
35) Message boards : Number crunching : The uploads are stuck (Message 67883)
Posted 19 Jan 2023 by zombie67 [MM]
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My uploads are building up again =(


Same here. Frustrating.

Edit: Maybe suddenly cleared up? Nice.
36) Message boards : Number crunching : The uploads are stuck (Message 67782)
Posted 17 Jan 2023 by zombie67 [MM]
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All my pending uploads started working today, and are all now complete.
37) Message boards : Number crunching : The uploads are stuck (Message 67751)
Posted 15 Jan 2023 by zombie67 [MM]
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For the folks that say the problem is on my end, that's just not true. I've been doing this BOINC thing since the beginning. I know what I am doing, and all my machines are doing just fine on all the other projects. The problem is with the CPDN side, and has not been resolved to date. And I am not alone, as you can see with some of the other volunteers here in this thread. And yes, I did try the "trick" posted a few days ago. Like Richard, it made no difference. My uploads cannot upload. Not slowly, not occasionally, not at all.

FWIW, the current error (which has changed over time) is

23727	climateprediction.net	1/15/2023 8:44:31 AM	Temporarily failed upload of oifs_43r3_ps_0655_2007050100_123_976_12193299_0_r455876171_113.zip: transient HTTP error	
23728	climateprediction.net	1/15/2023 8:44:31 AM	Backing off 05:48:34 on upload of oifs_43r3_ps_0655_2007050100_123_976_12193299_0_r455876171_113.zip	
23729			1/15/2023 8:44:33 AM	Internet access OK - project servers may be temporarily down.	
38) Message boards : Number crunching : The uploads are stuck (Message 67727)
Posted 15 Jan 2023 by zombie67 [MM]
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I have yet to have a single task to upload, since the beginning of this back in December. It's frustrating to see so many other get at lease SOME uploads to complete, if not ALL. Also, it's not clear to me that the project has the resources and management to ever get in front of this. Again, frustrating.
39) Message boards : Number crunching : The uploads are stuck (Message 67546)
Posted 11 Jan 2023 by zombie67 [MM]
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Yup. Same here. No uploads. No pings.

Bull


Same here. Not sure if it is the same problem or a new problem. But whatever the case, it is not fixed.
40) Message boards : Number crunching : The uploads are stuck (Message 67318)
Posted 4 Jan 2023 by zombie67 [MM]
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I am still getting transient HTTP error. Noting has uploaded yet.


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