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1) Message boards : Number crunching : CPDN Credit Not Getting Out? (Message 42380)
Posted 8 Jun 2011 by [B^S] sTrey
I'm not seeing this... boincstats showed a partial update several days ago but hasn't changed since, and my team site hasn't updated for weeks. Is it definite that CPDN is exporting stats normally now?
2) Message boards : Number crunching : Stalled regional (PNW) model, is this a known behavior? (Message 40885)
Posted 19 Oct 2010 by [B^S] sTrey
Just FYI, this model completed fine.
3) Message boards : Number crunching : Stalled regional (PNW) model, is this a known behavior? (Message 40813)
Posted 4 Oct 2010 by [B^S] sTrey
Just started running CPDN again, regional PNW models only. I run only 1 CPDN task at a time; the other cores run other projects primarily WCG. This combination has not had any problems in the past and nothing else has changed on this rig. (6.10.58 on XP Pro 4GB, VM usage is staying within tolerable range)

The 2nd model accumulated over 4 hours of clock time before I noticed it had zero cpu time. After suspending then restarting the client, the model restarted at zero elapsed time, and so far seems to be running normally.

I've seen ice worlds but not had a model stall in this way before. If it's an occasional normal then never mind, but was just curious about this behavior.
Apologize in advance if this is old news; didn't see it in the READMEs I looked at.


4) Message boards : Number crunching : No Trickles in Task Details (Message 37888)
Posted 24 Aug 2009 by [B^S] sTrey
Thanks Mo that saves wasted effort. (Les, I had no backup yet, I had just suspended the task for the last week or more, and resumed it for a while to verify it wouldn\'t terminate itself). I\'ve aborted the task and will get another.
5) Message boards : Number crunching : No Trickles in Task Details (Message 37883)
Posted 24 Aug 2009 by [B^S] sTrey
For what it\'s worth, this task seems similar. It\'s trickled just twice, got credit but neither trickle has appeared. I\'ve had the task suspended since, thinking this was a temporary part of the server issues.

I believe the last trickle was on August 16th. I also see see a trickle_down_0 file in the slot dir with that date, containing <abort>cleanup</abort>, is that a killer trickle? fwiw I resumed the task for a bit and it shows no sign of stopping.

I\'ve been wondering if it was safe to go back in the CPDN water wrt server and database issues. What do you advise here, should I let this short task go to completion or abort it and try another?

Thanks
[B^S] sTrey
6) Message boards : Number crunching : Hadam3p no work available? (Message 37412)
Posted 1 Jul 2009 by [B^S] sTrey
Les Bayliss wrote:
This thread on BOINC/dev may help.



Thanks Les, that's actually the thread I was referring to when saying it looked like it was a known issue. I'm guessing climate will give me more work when I've completed more of my existing model. If not, I'll be back scratching my head :)
7) Message boards : Number crunching : Hadam3p no work available? (Message 37405)
Posted 30 Jun 2009 by [B^S] sTrey
well according to sched_op_debug it now makes sense to me:

6/29/2009 23:26:54 climateprediction.net [sched_op_debug] Starting scheduler request
6/29/2009 23:26:54 climateprediction.net Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
6/29/2009 23:26:54 climateprediction.net Requesting new tasks
6/29/2009 23:26:54 climateprediction.net [sched_op_debug] CPU work request: 0.00 seconds; 0 idle CPUs
6/29/2009 23:26:54 climateprediction.net [sched_op_debug] CUDA work request: 30240.00 seconds; 1 idle GPUs
6/29/2009 23:26:59 climateprediction.net Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
6/29/2009 23:26:59 climateprediction.net [sched_op_debug] Server version 607
6/29/2009 23:26:59 climateprediction.net Message from server: No work sent
6/29/2009 23:26:59 climateprediction.net Message from server: No work available for the applications you have selected. Please check your settings on the web site.


Except, how do I turn the GPU preference off so it will stop asking for work for it? I thought it was by project and I'm not seeing it in CPDN. I've ignored this new aspect of BOINC and am therefore,um, ignorant about it...

p.s. from a brief scan of boinc message boards I gather this is a known issue and no way to turn it off by project at the moment.
8) Message boards : Number crunching : Hadam3p no work available? (Message 37403)
Posted 30 Jun 2009 by [B^S] sTrey
Hmmm, well it helps to know I'm not nuts, or at least not the only one! I wondered if it was due to inactivity or something I can't see; it's been hours now. I'll go look up the debug flags; I don't even see the amount of work its requesting with current settings. My messages look like:


6/29/2009 22:42:30 climateprediction.net Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
6/29/2009 22:42:30 climateprediction.net Requesting new tasks
6/29/2009 22:42:35 climateprediction.net Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
6/29/2009 22:42:35 climateprediction.net Message from server: No work sent
6/29/2009 22:42:35 climateprediction.net Message from server: No work available for the applications you have selected. Please check your settings on the web site.

6/29/2009 22:47:30 climateprediction.net Sending scheduler request: To send trickle-up message.
6/29/2009 22:47:30 climateprediction.net Requesting new tasks
6/29/2009 22:47:36 climateprediction.net Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
6/29/2009 22:47:36 climateprediction.net Message from server: No work sent
6/29/2009 22:47:36 climateprediction.net Message from server: No work available for the applications you have selected. Please check your settings on the web site.


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9) Message boards : Number crunching : Hadam3p no work available? (Message 37400)
Posted 29 Jun 2009 by [B^S] sTrey
Sorry if this is a known thing -- been away for a while, tried a search but didn't see anything quite relevant.

My account is currently set for hadam3p models only. Whenever the project is resumed it tries to get more work and then tells me none is available for the projects I've selected, etc., despite the status page which shows plenty hadam3p available -- and the number has changed over time so the page does seem functional.

This has been true for weeks. I ignored it during the recent server issues and kept the project mostly suspended, but apparently servers are fixed and status page are fixed and it still says there are over 100K of these tasks but I still get this message. It'll be a while yet before my existing model completes but wondering what's causing the message / what I'm missing. I haven't changed my settings since I got the hadam3p I'm crunching now. Clues appreciated.

(Windows XP, Boinc 6.6.20)
10) Message boards : Number crunching : Problems after SAP merger into CPDN (Message 33823)
Posted 17 May 2008 by [B^S] sTrey
My cpdn model has been suspended since before SAP broke, due to cpdn server problems and non-cpdn circs. SAP is now suspended on all my hosts, but it\'s still named climateprediction.net so if I force an update I still get the you\'re-already-attached-to-cpdn-please-detach messages.

So I wasn\'t clear if the redirect has truly been fixed... Does it appear safe to let normal cpdn models continue to run and contact the server, or do I need to wait for SAP to recover and the duplicate identity to go away first?
11) Message boards : Number crunching : Iceworlds & Slowdowns hadsm3/mh - Closed - Discussion (Message 32716)
Posted 23 Feb 2008 by [B^S] sTrey
OK well this one is repeatably stuck (see the last edit on my previous post), is there anything useful I can do with it or just abort it?
12) Message boards : Number crunching : Iceworlds & Slowdowns hadsm3/mh - Closed - Discussion (Message 32713)
Posted 23 Feb 2008 by [B^S] sTrey
Sure. data after reboot:

Timestamp 00:30 19-Dec-2056
70.05%done
2.82 s/TS
1140 hours elapsed
Globe is orange again.

So far it\'s now counting down normally, but there\'s about a model-day to go before it gets to where it was stuck before.

I\'m curious what rebooting changed that restarting boinc did not.

Anyway since this is apparently the wrong thread, I\'ll look for a better location for subsequent questions (clues happily accepted).

-edit- it\'s stuck again same place, 09:30 20-Dec-2056, blue globe and crawling.
13) Message boards : Number crunching : Iceworlds & Slowdowns hadsm3/mh - Closed - Discussion (Message 32711)
Posted 23 Feb 2008 by [B^S] sTrey
I think this qualifies though it\'s not a hadsm3, it\'s a hadcm3 optimised IO.
Result7006672
Timestamp 09:30 20/12/2056
s/TS shown as 2.83
blue globe
Intel P4 (Prescott) HT 3.0, not overclocked

This box has been my CPDN workhorse, though it\'s the first time it\'s tried one of these optimised I/O coupled models. This is an 80-year model 70% finished.

I only noticed after a day or so that no trickles had been sent. When I looked at it, the graphics window showed only black. I suspended, quit, zipped a backup of the entire boinc directory and restarted. The display began as normal but was unresponsive and eventually went from a black world to a blue one. The the 2.83 sec/TS it reports is no longer real, it\'s more like 10 minutes/TS.

Any reason not to abort it, or anything else I should be looking at? I\'ve no indications the hardware is ailing, haven\'t changed hardware or software recently, etc.
14) Message boards : Number crunching : Status of plans for shorter wus? (Message 26846)
Posted 17 Feb 2007 by [B^S] sTrey
I\'m about to see my first coupled model finish (yipeee & crossed fingers!). On my old P4 it\'s run over 2600 hours which combined with several other projects, has taken close to a year of calendar time.

I\'ll figure out a way to keep crunching CPDN but meanwhile I\'m wondering about plans for doing 40- or 80-year models or other variations which would be shorter than these work units. Are those plans real? Or just being discussed (or did I dream it :) If real, any update as to possible time frame?
Thanks
15) Questions and Answers : Preferences : Can quota drop below 1/day? (Message 22712)
Posted 11 May 2006 by [B^S] sTrey
[Longer explanation deleted] Due to various problems, the coupled-model-reset and some goofs on my part I now have a quota of 1 wu/day, and accidentally d/l an extra coupled-model wu. I should abort the extra wu so it can be sent elsewhere, as I could not possibly finish the 2nd wu in time.

As big as these wus are, it would take years to grow the quota back to something tolerant of errors. Unless we have another reset I won\'t need to know for a year either, but I\'d still like to know beforehand: is the quota decrease bounded at one or will it go down to zero when I abort the extra wu?
16) Message boards : climateprediction.net Science : Will the gaps in the models affect the results? (Message 22652)
Posted 6 May 2006 by [B^S] sTrey
Les, thanks very much for the explanations contrasting coupled-model trickles with sulphur; it\'s very helpful. And of course thanks to Carl for the long night of database repair. (May the trickle-hacker fry their equipment so that they can\'t use it for harassment any more.)

17) Message boards : Number crunching : Missing Tickles (Message 22639)
Posted 5 May 2006 by [B^S] sTrey
Thank you very much for the update, Carl.
Trickle-hacking, a new definition of slime. Sheesh.
18) Message boards : Number crunching : Missing Tickles (Message 22622)
Posted 5 May 2006 by [B^S] sTrey
I know nothing so this is yet more speculation, but I agree with this post, pointing out that the backlog seems to be growing. I\'m not worried about credits eventually appearing, I\'m just thinking something is actually worsening, not getting fixed. The stats imply (to me anyway) that the trickle processing is not catching up. This is starting to remind me of what SETI went through last year [long depressing story deleted]

Can anyone in the know reassure us that there is actual evidence (as oppsed to logical assumptions) that processing is catching up?

Can the catchup rate be measured such that a \"caught-up\" time frame could be roughly predicted?
19) Message boards : Number crunching : Do missing CM3 trickles get restored? (Message 22274)
Posted 21 Apr 2006 by [B^S] sTrey
Thanks for the helpful responses. Since this seems to be my day to display ignorance I\'ll ask one more: how many phases are there in cm models?

I just finished a seasonal model which had only one phase, and the graphics display for this cm3 model looks similar i.e. showing trickle x of y, where x/y = the same % complete shown on boincmgr\'s progress bar; to me that implies one giant phase. Nor did it show a phase designator, as it did in the slab and sulphur models I ran.

At least my current model passed the (small) amount of crunch time I\'d achieved on the bad model, so it feels like I\'m in new territory again. :)
20) Message boards : Number crunching : Do missing CM3 trickles get restored? (Message 22264)
Posted 21 Apr 2006 by [B^S] sTrey
Thanks for the quick response and sorry, I meant to post the result to demonstrate the \"hole\" in the graph. That\'s what I\'m wondering about, will it ever get filled in?
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